There are many videos of people wandering about in the dark around the Stocksbridge bypass taking photographs of "orbs". But I like this one by the SilverStarTrucker. He's chewing a brandysnap (so he tells us) which slightly impedes his rambling delivery. But he's quite right - why are so many empty cars parked in the layby? It's a mystery to me. More interestingly, he says:
"The western entrance to the famous Stocksbridge Bypass. It runs through that land, that used to be farmed by monks. And this layby.... that green cafeteria thing isn't open today because it's August bank holiday. But according to... I spoke to this bloke [who works there?] and he was there all night. And the lorry driver pulled in down here somewhere, and went in there for a break, cup of tea and a sandwich, and the second lorry pulled in and said "You'd better come out here, mate - your lights are on and your doors are wide open and your radio's playing full blast." And he came out, and there was nobody around because it was very early in the morning. And I think I parked in here one night and slept in the cab. But I didn't notice anything."
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Transcript of the "Legends of the Roman Legionaries" episode of Ghosthunters.
I think this is one of my favourite episodes of Ghost Hunters, because it's basically a series of witnesses describing what they experienced (as opposed to alleged psychics storming in on a troubled family and imposing their own explanation). Across the internet it seems to get called 'Legends of the Roman Legionnaires' but I'm sure that should be 'Legionaries'! even though the script keeps using the former word.
Narrator (William Woollard): This is a series about the
unexplained. About things that are seen and yet not seen. About events that our
common sense tells us can’t possibly have occurred and yet they have occurred,
burned into people’s memories never to be forgotten. Our stories come from all
over the country. They involve people who didn’t have the slightest belief in
the paranormal until it forced its way into their lives. In this series we tell
their stories and we grapple with the uncomfortable questions which arise –
what is happening, what do these stories mean for our understanding of the way
the world works, and what does science have to say about it all? There are far
too many of these happenings for them simply to be brushed aside. They have now
to be confronted.
This is one of a maze of tunnels under the old Treasurer’s House
in the ancient city of York. It runs down into the cellars. It also happens to
lie right in the centre of the old Roman fort which occupied this site 2000
years ago. It was here one chill February morning that Harry Martindale,
plumber, was sent to run in a new set of water pipes.
Harry, plumber: My job was to knock a hole where this pipe
is here, through the ceiling. I came down and spent a whole day knocking the hole
through the ceiling. I had no idea then it was several feet thick, and I came
down here the second day and continued to knock the hole through the ceiling. I
had a short ladder in the centre of the floor here. And in the centre of the
floor was the original Roman road, and it’d been laid out in sections. And I
knew whatever it was, was old, but I had no interest in it. In fact I put the
base of the ladder on the Roman road. Just before lunchtime, I started to hear
the sound of a musical note. There was no tune, just a blaring of a note, and I
thought someone had a wireless on in another part of the building. And the
sound got louder and louder, and I realised that that the same time that the
sound was actually coming from the wall here. And when I realised this I just
glanced down (in line with my waist on the right had side here) and I saw that
a figure had come out the wall, and what I was looking at was the top of a
helmet with the plumes on.
Now I knew whatever it was, shouldn’t have been here in the
cellar with me, and through the shock and the terror of seeing this I just
stepped back off the ladder, landed on my backside, and then scrambled into the
corner of the cellar there. When I looked for the figure it was almost the
complete figure of a Roman solder. It came out the wall, walked at a slight
angle to the wall opposite, and as soon as he cleared the wall, then a horse
came out of the wall behind him with a Roman soldier sat astride. Now once the
horse had cleared the wall and was going through the wall opposite, then Roman
soldiers came out in twos - now I was in
no fit state to count them as if they were going into the ark, but there were
at least 20 of these Roman soldiers appeared here.
Narrator: This
extraordinary apparition took place in what must have been one of the busiest
parts of the Roman fort, on their north east gate running towards the main
barracks. The treasurer’s house, where Harry was in the cellar, lies on the
edge of that road.
Dr Patrick Ottaway, archaeologist: We’re standing now on Chapterhouse Street,
which is close to the line of the Roman ‘Via Decumana’ - that is, the main Roman
road which led from the north-east gate of the fortress (away in that direction),
to the headquarters building of the fortress (which is away to my left). And
York minster now stands on the site of the Roman building, and some twelve feet
below the great medieval cathedral, you can still see remains of the Roman
walls, as they were excavated in the late 60s. Immediately to my left here is
the cellar, and this is where the surface of the Roman road was found when the
cellar for was taken up, and this is where Harry Martindale saw the solders.
Harry: Now ‘terror’ is a difficult word - I think what I
felt in here was worse than terror. And I can assure you your hair does stand
on end, you can actually feel it! Because what I was looking at, although I
only had the one single light in here, what I were looking at were the same as
you and I, but the difference between
them and me, was … they were coming out of the wall, the wall didn’t exist as
far as they were concerned. The only other Roman soldier I’d seen prior to
this, is what we call, or I call, the Charlton Heston type - riding a beautiful
horse, very smart. These were the complete opposite. The first thing that
struck me was how small they were, they were very small indeed. Another remarkable
thing when they first came out of the wall - I couldn’t see them from the knees
down, until they came to where the Roman road had been excavated - then I could
see them from their sandals up. So much so, that when the horse came through
the wall, and when it was going across where the Roman road had been excavated,
I could see that the fetlocks of the horse were real bushy.
Narrator: It’s this kind of strange detail that lends
credence to Harry’s story. These ghostly soldiers ..walking on the old Roman road
surface, so only where the cellar had been excavated back to that level, could
he see them at full length.
PO: Over the Roman period the road has been remade and
resurfaced, and the ground level has risen. So I presume Harry has seen soldiers
of the late first century, that is, soldiers of the Ninth Legion, that were
here in York at that time.
Narrator: This man who knew nothing about Roman history or
Roman military equipment was able to give a detailed description of the soldiers’
appearance, right down to their weariness and the stubble on their chins.
HM: I wouldn’t say they were all that smart, although they did
all had the same uniform on. The metal helmet came right under the chin here,
and from where I was sat with the single light on, I could see there was growth
of hair here on the face. They had the coloured plumes coming out the top of
the helmet, and as they were going past I could see they were going down the
side of the back of the head here. They all wore the same thing. On the top on
the material were strands of leather all the way round, and the only thing I
can say they had on .. was a green coloured skirt. All of them carried a short
sword on the right had side, the side nearest to me, and it was a short sword
like an oversized dagger.
Narrator: Harry’s description, given very shortly after his
experience, was examined in great detail by historians. It proved to be accurate
in just about every detail.
PO: The armour that the legionaries wore was called “lorica
segmentata,” which is thin strips of steel which were attached to a leather
base, and they are a very distinctive feature of the legionary armour. And would
have provided on one hand very good protection for the upper body, but at the
same time flexibility. The Roman soldiers’ protection below the waist - for mobility, all they had below the waist was
a sporran-like affair, which was thick strips of leather with metal plates on
it. Then they had the tunic underneath their armour.
Narrator: But in one crucial detail Harry’s description
seemed to be totally wrong. His written testimony described the soldiers as
carrying rounded boss shields. Quite unlike the traditional Roman rectangular
shields. But in fact this single detail only served to underline the veracity
of Harry’s experience.
HM: One was carrying a long, like a lance affair, and one of
the soliders I saw walking out the wall carried a shield. Now in the centre of
the shield it was like a raised bulb.
PO: Now Harry refers to round shields, and we don’t normally
associate these with legionnaires. But the Roman army also included auxiliary
troops, and these included soldiers who were recruited in frontier areas, and
from subject peoples and so forth - and their eqpt was really rather different.
And we know, for example, that they did have round or oval shields. So it may
well be, that what Harry has seen was a detachment of auxiliary troops, who were
attached to the fortress in York for some particular function. We know that at
Cawthorn, to the north-east of York, there are a number of fortifications there,
which include a couple of what we think are practice camps. So in order to keep
their hand in (so to speak), the soldiers were sent out to where to train by
building practice fortifications, rather in the way soldiers are kept busy
today. The last thing the roman authorities wanted, was soldiers sitting around
with time on their hands.
HM: The terror I felt was because I could see them exactly
as I can see anyone else now, so I thought naturally all they had to do was glance
to their right to see me in the corner - and obviously the terror was in cast
they’d do me any harm. But they didn’t, they just looked ahead of them and went
into the wall opposite. When the last one had cleared the cellar and gone
through the wall, and I couldn’t hear or see anything else, then I made my
escape out of here.
Narrator: When Harry described his remarkable experience to
the curator of the Museum at York, it turns out he was by no means alone in
having seen the legionnaires: mud bespattered, weary, returning perhaps from a
training exercise or a cross-country forced march. In a sense, it could be said
that the Roman camp in York is still active, and that seems to be true of many other Roman
sites around the country. The Roman legionnaires are still with us.
Part two
Narrator: The Romans occupied this country for over 400 years,
but they had over 25,000 men stationed here, and they imprinted themselves very
firmly on the British landscape. They brought with them their architecture and
technology; they built cities and forts, and farms and villas, linked by a
network of arrow-straight military roads to move their legions quickly to any
trouble spot. They made wine here, raised families, grew up and died here: thousands
of Romans lie buried on British soil. For a long time, Colchester, out on the
East Anglian marshes, was the Roman capital of the country. One of the roads
leading out of the city ran east to West Mersea Island, and a modern road
follows the old Roman causeway. West Mersea Island was well developed: it had farms and villas and a Roman princess.
Legend has it she was married to a centurion from Colchester, and she is buried
in a large burial mound quite close to the road. Some local people would claim
that the romans are still active on West Mersea Island. Jill Smeaton, for example,
who lives very close to the burial mound, has heard them.
Jill Smeaton: Well, in 1987 I’d been living here about 10
years, and I’d always been a little bit frightened perhaps, when I’d been out
to do the late night feeds, because we keep horses here. But after 9 or 10
years of seeing and hearing absolutely nothing I’d forgotten all about it, to be
honest with you. Then it was the night of the autumn equinox, 1987 (September
the 23rd) – very, very black night, there was no moon whatsoever. The
tide was over the strood, so we were actually cut off at that time, and it was
around 3 or 4 in the morning. I’m a very heavy sleeper and I don’t wake up for
anything, normally. Suddenly I just sat bolt upright in bed, because going past
my bedroom window (we live in a bungalow) was the sound - the very clear, definite
sound - of two horses, unshod, walking along as they were going through reeds
or long grass. Which was extraordinary, as I’d cut the grass that very day - it had been long but it was completely short. But
it was a swishing, wooshing noise. And coming behind these two horses was the
sound of a very very heavy wooden cart, the wheels just rumbling along. Not going
very fast, as you might imagine a chariot - just rumbling along. Whether it was
a funeral procession..? Perhaps it could even have been that. But it was such a
heavy wagon or whatever tey would or cart they were dragging that the walls of
the bungalow were actually reverberating, it was like being in the middle of a
w movie, just the noise of the horses and cart going past. And my friend in the
room next door heard exactly the same thing. And although she’s a much lighter sleeper
than I am (I normally sleep through anything), we both rushed out into the
hallway. And funnily enough, her husband didn’t hear anything - nothing at all
- and yet the two of us heard the most tremendous rumbling going past. We thought
our horses were out, looked out the window in a panic, and we were going to
have to rush out and herd them up. But they were just going past too slowly for
that. You couldn’t see anything, and our own horses a few hundred yards away
were completely silent.
So we then heard it move away. We looked through the windows
and couldn’t see a thing. Again it was completely black, and it seemed to move
across the road, away from the strood, and go up in the region of Dawes Lane.
Narrator: Many other people have heard similar sounds of carts
and chariots moving across the island. Others claim to have seen the centurion
husband, perhaps on his way to visit his wife’s tomb.
Alfred, local resident:
One .. night my friend and I came back from Colchester. We’d been to one
of the pubs there, and had a few drinks and saw some of our girlfriends and
that. We came back onto Mersea Island over the strood, on the East Mersea road.
And we turned into Dawes Lane about 400 yards up the road, where there was a
pond and haystacks. Misty night… in the
headlights this figure came out between the pond and the haystacks. Walking
towards the mound. And he looked like a Roman centurion. He had a helmet on
with an eagle on the front, he had a shield, a sword… umm, he had a uniform on,
and he sort of had a red skirt, but you couldn’t see his legs. And we stopped
the car and my friend said “We’ll have him tonight!” and he jumped out of the
car and I followed. We got about 400 yards in the road where theres a mound - roman
mound with an opening in it. And, um, he sort of looked at us and then he
disappeared.
Valerie, local resident: We were coming, coming along Mersea
strood one evening, about 12 o’clock. It was high tide and the full moon. And
as we were going along the strood, I was happened to look across the opposite
side of the road. And there was somebody walking along, and I looked, and it
was the Roman ghost. And I said to my husband, “oh look - there’s the Roman
ghost!” and my husband said “Don’t be so silly, what on earth are you on about?”
W turned around and came back, and we came along slowly, and I wound my window
down on my side (because I was on the near side), and had a look. And there was
this Roman - and my husband saw him as well. He was all dressed up, and holding
his two spears. And he was had all the leather sort of skirt on, and he was
sort of very upright and straight. And he was quite a large man. And he was
just looking straight ahead. He was looking - all his face was all, a rounded
face, and his eyes was just looking straight ahead. And we were further up, and
turned round, then when we turned round and came back, he’d just completely
disappeared. And the water was at high tide - it was level with the pavement. And
there was no boats, no cars, not a bicycle, nothing, and he just completely
gone.
Narrator: Sounds of course terribly inexplicable, but what
can possibly be happening in these kinds of experience? How can Roman soldiers
still be marching across the country nearly 2000 years after they left these
shores? What do the scientists have to say about it all?
David Fontana, Professor of psychology: Well that’s a major
question. When the Society for Psychical Research was set up a century ago, by
a group of very distinguished academics from Cambridge University, they thought
that they would very quickly, by scientific methods, they would find out the
reality or otherwise of phenomena of this kind. Well, a hundred years later
we’re still searching, we’re still looking. And the society, over that century,
has had many of the most brilliant scientists in the country as members. All
they been able to do is be relatively convinced that these phenomena have
happened. Far from an explanation, it ends up in the end as a matter of belief
Narrator: One explanatory theory that has some currency, is
that in some way building and rocks and the earth itself absorbs energy from the
living beings who inhabit them. And that later on, under certain conditions,
that energy - that signal - can be replayed rather like a cd or a tape. Indeed,
it’s called the stone tape theory.
Archie Roy, Professor of astronomy: You have to postulate
that in the case of a typical haunt some very emotion-laden scene or some very
important scene from the point of view of the humans that took part in it, has in
some way become registered on the environment. Not necessarily in a house, maybe
even outside. And that it looks like, it’s almost like, a sort of psychic video
that has been created. And someone who comes along who’s sensitive enough to
act as a “psychic video player” will actually play that tape and see the
figures, or perhaps even hear voices or hear sounds. And it is nothing - it is
nothing to do with the people who were originally there, who are no longer
there. It is simply a record.
Jim Lyons, Research physicist: If you imagine some sort of
environment, say some individual undergoes some drastic experience like decapitation
or something like that, then the energy liberated at that point in time is in
fact transmitted - expelled - into the surrounding material and stored in that
material. The subtle energies, a series of vibrational frequencies, can in fact
then be read out at some later time - very much like a video recording. So a
sequence of rather drastic events can in fact be recorded in living matter.
Narrator: At the Cavendish laboratory in Cambridge, one
eminent physicist, Brian Josephson explains an even more outlandish
possibility. That inanimate matter could actually have consciousness. In its
present state of knowledge science couldn’t deny such a proposition.
Professor Brian Josephson, Nobel Laureate in Physics: the
idea that a piece of matter could hold impressions of the past is a surprising
observation that would be very hard to explain. And the only way I could
understand it, would be if the stone or whatever it was had some kind of
consciousness, and could remember on that account. Um. Now whether it could
have consciousness or not, we don’t know. Consciousness is assumed to be always
connected with brains, but we don’t really have any kind of theory of consciousness
in science which would tell us that is should be associated entirely with brains. So if science were
ever to have a proper explanation of consciousness, or proper theory of it,
it’s always possible it might allow a wider collection of objects than just
brains to express it.
DF: My hope is that science will be able to demonstrate
these things in a reliable way in the future, and be able to provide a scientific
explanation in the future. Which is in no sense saying that they would not be
spiritual or religious or in
orientation, because the two things need not be separate in that sense.
Narrator: But clearly science is still struggling for an explanation
for things and events that it’s not really equipped to explore. Meanwhile,
there is no doubting the validity of Harry Martindale’s extreme experience, and
it is burned into his memory as vividly now, as on the day he experienced it.
HM: One of the churches here in York, they, er… put pressure…
pressure on me as a Christian. They didn’t think it was right that I should
mention my ghost story. And I went along with this for a while, but then I
think – “No! Why? Why shouldn’t I mention it?” I‘m not trying to convince you
that what I saw in here happened. I know it happened to me. Whether you believe
this or not, it doesn’t bother me whatsoever. No one has ever turned round to
me and says “You’re a liar.”
Transcript of the Stocksbridge Bypass episode of "Strange But True."
This is my own transcription - I've tried to make it as accurate as possible with the witnesses' words, but have left out a few of the "aarghs" and "what is it?!"s of the reconstructions.
This one was first aired a few years before the 'Ghosthunters' episode, on the 2nd December, 1994 (so says Wikipedia).
Michael Aspel: Of all the people who claim to have witness
unexplained phenomena, very few can offer what can be regarded as proof. Their
stories can be easily dismissed - and often are - but do they deserve more? All
we can do is look them in the eye, and decide for ourselves whether they’re genuine,
and ask ourselves why anyone would make up such a story especially when they
risk ridicule. The key witnesses in our first story tonight are people you’d
normally trust. Some indeed have frequently given evidence in courts of law.
Here’s the story, believe what you will.
Ever since building work began, a new section of road across
the top of the Peak District has attracted reports of strange happenings. The first
was from two security guards, and this is what they saw one night.
Voice of Peter Owens, security company manager: A group of children running in a circle, in a
field, at the side of a construction site. The time was round about midnight
and you just wouldn’t see the children playing there at that time of night when
it was so far away from any houses. And the children disappeared. They were
security men who’d been in the industry a long time, they knew the job, they’d
worked nights for a number of years, and not the type of people that you’d
expect to be scared.
Michael Aspel: The A616
used to pass straight through this old steel town, but then the road planners got
to work on Stocksbridge - they built a sweeping new bypass. While it may have
made the town quieter, some believe the bypass disturbed something that would have
been best left alone. Certainly the two security guards who were watching over
the equipment being used to build it would agree. But they were still puzzling
over the sight of the children. But that was just the beginning.
Peter Owens: The next incident was later on that night.
(reconstruction): Here, stop the car, look there’s someone
up there.
Don’t be daft. There can’t be.
Yes there is, look! You drive around, shine your lights on’t
bridge, I’ll wait down here.
Peter Owens: They immediately started the vehicle up, shone
the headlights towards the hooded figure and the headlights actually shone
through the figure.
(reconstruction): Oh god! It’s disappeared into thin air!
Let’s get out of here!
MA: The men in a state of shock called their boss out. He
was alarmed at the state they were in.
PO: They were physically shaking, the complexion was very
white and pallid. One of the guards was actually crying.
(reconstruction): It were difficult to describe, it looked
like a monk.
I mean what were it doing there? It were evil.
How can it just disappear??
M.A.: First thing the
next morning the men went to the police. The officer on duty knew them.
PC Dick Ellis: It were obvious they’d seen or heard
something. They were both spooked, and basically I said to them - it’s not
really a police matter, and there was nothing I could do about it, and perhaps
jokingly I told them that really they needed the church more than they needed
the police.
MA: But they took him seriously - they went to Stocksbridge
church and refused to leave.
DE: About an hour or
so later I received a phone call from my boss, and I was told to go up to the
church and sort this matter out. Firstly to get them out of the church, and
then to see if I could find out anything that they’d actually seen, heard, or
whatever.
MA: The security
guards never, it seems, got over what happened to them.
PO: One of them
left after 3 days, and the other one stayed with us roughly 2 to 3 months. And
neither of the two guards would set foot on that site again, even in the
daylight.
MA: While the bypass was being built, runner Graham Brooke
was training for a marathon. One day he was out jogging with his son, Nigel.
GB: I saw a chap walking with his back to the traffic, he was walking in the middle of the road.
Nigel: I looked at him and you could see he had no features to it except for a nose and eye sockets.
GB: I could smell like this fusty rotteny smell.
Nigel: Not a human type smell.
GB: And then I could see that he wasn’t walking on the road, he was like walking in the road, and from below the knee down, you know, you couldn’t see anything.
MA: Each time things are apparently seen, the descriptions
vary, but the reputation of the bypass deepens.
David Simpson: We were coming
home from Judi’s parents over the bridge that goes over the bypass.
Judi Simpson: I could see out of the corner of my eyes like a grey apparition - there was actually no facial expressions.
DS: It was hovering, arms and legs were flailing all over the place.
[reconstruction]: That’s strange it looks like a man running – but he’s not running on the ground.
DS: It ran up the embankment.
JS: It actually rose from the side into the road, and disappeared into the car.
DS: I can think of no other explanation for what we saw - in my mind (I think in both of our minds), what we saw has to, had to have been a ghost.
MA: So if something
does keep appearing on the bypass, what is it? Lucinda June is a psychic. She
says she knows.
Lucinda June: I was driving along the Stocksbridge bypass, and the car
started to become very very cold. With this came a smell of musty books. Then
all of a sudden, a darkness appeared to the left hand side of me, and I felt
very very frightened. And I did pick up the spirit of a monk that had been
there 500 years previous.
MA: But why should a
long dead monk be on what is now the Stocksbridge Bypass? It has been discovered that there were once
monastery farms in the area.
Trevor Lodge, local historian: The rumour, or the story, is
that one of these monks became disillusioned with the rather harsh autocratic
way of life. He came here to Underbank Hall, and worked the rest of his natural
life here as groundsman, or whatever, and subsequently when he died he was
buried in unhallowed ground.
MA: Some believe the bypass may have been built over the
supposed monk’s grave. And they also have theories to explain the children seen
by the security guards.
TL: Children were used
in the valley’s coalmines in the late-18th and mid-19th century, and
the rumour suggests that there’s been some sort of mining catastrophe.
MA: So, a phantom monk, ghostly children... After dealing with
the security men in the church, PC Ellis and his colleague John Beet were sent
to investigate.
[reconstruction]: Let’s switch the radios off.
Dick Ellis: We sat in the panda car with the lights off and the engine off. We sat looking at the bridge and after a while I was convinced I could see something moving about on the bridge. Not wanting to spook meself or John I kind of looked at John.
[reconstruction]: Hang on, what’s that up there?
Go and see what it is, Dick.
DE: I actually climbed up the ladder onto the bridge, and there was a lot of things scattered about on the top of the bridge.
[reconstruction]: It’s only a sheet of polythene.
John Beet: Although once we thought we’d found out what it was, and what was actually on the bridge, we decided to give it another 10, 15 minutes and say we’ll forget it and go back on our normal patrol.
DE: I suddenly got this feeling - you can’t explain it, there’s the saying ‘someone’s walked over your grave’ which turns you cold. And I then became aware that somebody now had appeared directly on my right hand side, and was virtually leaning and pressing themselves against the car. I managed to cast my head quickly to the right and remember seeing the upper section of somebody’s chest, torso, and a clear v-sign [he indicates as if a V-neck jumper neckline]. When I got out on my side, not a person, nothing about at all. I even hit the deck and looked under the vehicle because nobody could have run away from us, there were bankings on both sides, nobody ran forwards or backwards.
JB: We went to start the car and at first the car wouldn’t start, and we stated to panic a little bit. We drove off and radioed our colleagues.
DE: There was a bang behind the car which I can only really put down to sounding like somebody was hitting the back of the car with something like a baseball bat or a pickaxe handle. Things on my job have frightened me, and it wasn’t the sort of fear you get from violence offered towards you or anything like that. It was more the kind of dread feeling, or knowing that something’s happening that you have no control over. [Beet agrees].
MA: Just for the record, the Stocksbridge Bypass was opened on Friday 13th.
Ghost Hunters: The Haunted Bypass
This is my own transcription of the episode so there may be minor differences between what I've written and what the witnesses said. This episode about the Stocksbridge Bypass hauntings was first shown on 9th of March, 1997.
Part One.
Dick Ellis: It all started about about ten years or so back,
when two security men who were working on the bypass came into the police
station one Monday morning, to report they’d seen a ghost. Both of them were
known to me through the time they’d spent up there doing the security job. They
told me they’d seen a headless figure on the new Pearoyd bridge. And basically
I couldn’t offer them any advice, and more jokingly than anything else, at that
time I told them it was the church they required and not the police. And off
they went up to Stocksbridge to actually seek (as it turned out), to seek sanctuary
in the church.
Narrator: Dick Ellis is a no nonsense policeman, in the
small steel making town of Stocksbridge in Yorkshire. The town straggles along a narrow valley on the eastern slopes of
the Pennines. It’s dominated by the big central structure of the steelworks. In
1987 they began to build a bypass to carry traffic up across the hills. And
things began to happen. One night for example, two big tough security men
experienced something so strange and so unnerving they took their story to the
police.
DK: They were there basically to frighten people away - they
were the type that if there were a group of lads up there nicking something,
and they got out of the landrover, the landrover would raise up in the air by a
foot because of their size, and you’d run. They were there to put the fear of
god up people, and it worked well. They were really genuinely nice blokes. And
the morning they came down to Deepcar to report it, they were both very very
shaken. Something had scared them.
Narrator: Understandably enough, the initial police response
was pretty sceptical, but there was no doubt that the security men had been
very severely frightened. The claimed their landrover had been bounced and
rocked around with them in it, by something they could neither see nor explain.
It had scared them stiff.
Mick Lee (managing director of the security firm): What made
it worse in many ways, and convinced me that something serious had happened,
was that 12 hours later I sent them home and got them some medical attention,
and the vicar of Stocksbridge was involved. Then I got them to come back in the
office about 7 or 8 at night and saw them again, and they were really no
better, they’d quietened down a little bit, but their nerves were absolutely
shot, and clearly they had been, well, traumatised.
Narrator: Within a matter of weeks both men had given up
their jobs, so their lives had certainly been changed by their psychic
experience. As for the police, since the report has gone into the logbook, Dick
Ellis was told to investigate it. A few nights later he decided to spend some
time up at the roadworks with a colleague, observing what went on.
D.E.: We parked up about 100 yard from the bridge where the
sighting had been, and we sat there in the darkness, radios off, nothing
happening around - we were just waiting. We’d been there a good 20 minutes,
possibly a bit longer. By now my eyesight had adjusted to the darkness, it was
a lovely clear night, the stars were out over the lot. It was a very pleasant
evening, nice and warm. And we could see something moving on the bridge. John,
the special who was with me, I could see he was paying attention to the bridge
- I was looking at the bridge because something was moving. After a while we
both mentioned it to each other, and we walked up to the bridge, looked and we
couldn’t see anything. We went back to the car, got in the car - obviously when
you get in the car the lights come on so you lose your night vision.
After a
few minutes we’re back to the darkness, and the same thing was moving, it was
moving sideways on the bridge. This time I took a torch from the car, gone up, climbed
up the ladder onto the bridge, and thankfully we found quite a few pallets of
large concrete blocks that were covered in polythene sheeting. That was moving
about quite freely in the breeze. I fastened it down with the bricks, we got
back down, got back in the car, again after a few moments til we’d adjusted - it
had stopped. We were relieved - we weren’t frightened, we hadn’t spooked ourselves.
We were quite openly joking about it, thinking if anyone knew we were here,
they’d think we were absolutely raving mad. So we weren’t hyped up, expecting
anything to happen - we were calm. And we were almost getting to the point
where we thought ‘let’s leave it, nothing’s going to happen’ – and - it’s hard
to explain what happened. We were sat in a Vauxhall Astra, in a three door Astra.
The windows were both down, so you’ve got quite a wide doorway with a large
windowsill. My arm was out of the window. I was looking in the rear view mirror
and also in both side wing mirrors, expecting at any time someone to try to
sneak up on us and set us up - so I was ready for that. When, - to give the
term ‘when someone walks over your grave’, when you go deathly cold - I just
suddenly went so cold I couldn’t speak. I can’t remember if I stopped breathing
but I would say not, I could get my breath. But I knew that from nowhere,
suddenly, somebody was here. And when I say ‘this close’ I mean ‘this close’ -
somebody was pushed against the car window, with the entire torso region being
pressed through the open window. Strange thing was, I couldn’t feel anything on
my arm, and my arm would have been out, and anything there would have been
pressing against my arm, but I couldn’t feel that. I just knew that somebody’s
chest area was pressed against the window. I couldn’t speak to tell John
because I just froze. I was thinking ‘Christ how the hell did this thing get
here’ when as quickly I could think that, it had gone.
All me senses came back
- I momentarily cast my head to the side and it had definitely gone. I was just
about to say to John, something along the lines of ‘what was that?!’ when he
let out such a scream and ended up physically off the seat - up towards the
ceiling, the roof of the car, and just screamed. I jumped out of the police
car, ran round the back, expecting what had gone from my side was now at his
side - to find nothing. I asked him what he’d seen and he said, at the same
time I’d sensed something on my side, he’d sensed something had appeared on his
side. It might have been a split second with his scream and with the way I
felt. I then told him to stop in the car, I got the torch, I even looked under
the car, I looked all the way round it, I looked up the banking to the left I
looked up the banking to the right - there was nothing there. Nobody could have
got on us that quick and then got away that quick. To double check on this, the
bypass then was just mud, and all there was was tyre tracks and there was
actually our footprints where we’d twice walked up the bridge and come back, so
we’d no footprints.
So we didn’t know what to make of it, we got back in the
car, I drove up to the bridge. There was a dirt track taking you up onto the
old Pearoyd Lane although the bridge wasn’t open, and we parked on the top. And
we were sat in the car, when something hit the car from behind. The car didn’t
physically move, although it felt as though somebody had hit us, or run into
the back with the crashing noise. We both then jumped out the car thinking
something had hit us, obviously. And I went to the back of the car and again
there was nothing there at all. But within the space of a few seconds something
hit the back of the police car four or five times. Now, it wasn’t long (using
this just as a ‘for instance’), it wasn’t long after the miners’ strike had
finished, and we’d been used to being in police cars that were being attacked by
people with sticks, baseball bats, clubs (call them what you want), - and it was that same kind of banging on the
back of the car, as though someone was hitting it with a large implement -
wood, metal, whatever. We then thought, this is odd. I didn’t get the strange
feeling back again, the feeling of coldness, but we didn’t like it this time,
this was scary.
Narrator: As with the night watchmen, the car wasn’t damaged
in any way, but there can be no question as to the genuineness of Dick Ellis’s
experience. It takes a lot of courage for a policeman to talk about seeing
ghosts, in front of his colleagues. Dick went further and put a full report
into the station log. And over the following months there were several similar
reports. Many of them mentioned a monk-like figure – dark, hooded, sometimes
moving quickly up the embankment or through a car’s headlights.
Melbourne, Haulage driver: When you parked up, you’d to find
a place where you could put your trailer, cos there were that many trailers in
- you had to find an empty space. So I found a space, and then I stopped again
in the wide part to take my ropes off, to back the trailer in. When I were
taking the ropes off, down the nearside of the trailer, I suddenly went very
cold. And it was a warm night. And very cold. And I got a musty smell, and
glancing up I saw this figure of a monk just gliding through the headlights,
and disappear among the other trailers. I wasn’t frightened but I was a little
bit unnerved when I saw it. And quite a few times after that, at that time, I
got that same smell, but I never saw that figure again. And that particular
night when I saw it, I told the boss when I got back: he said ‘oh you’ve seen
it as well’.
Narrator: Monks, even ghostly monks, aren’t the sort of the
thing you’d connect with a steel town, but when we looked into the history of
the valley we found there were clear links: there were two monasteries close by
that went back as far as the 12th century. One was of the Cistercian
order, which has a very strict code. And we found a local legend of a monk that
had broken his code, and had left the monastery to take a job on a local farm.
When he died he had to be buried in unconsecrated ground, up on the hillside.
Very close it seems to the line of the cutting for the new bypass. Had the
roadworks disturbed a still troubled spirit?
Part Two.
Narrator: The Stocksbridge bypass was completed in 1989. It now carries
a steady stream of traffic up over the Pennines. But it has something of an
unhappy record - in fact it’s become an accident blackspot. There’s even been
some suggestion that the accidents have been due to the strange sightings,
because they’ve gone on. Ordinary people have no doubt they’ve seen something
not of this world, which they can’t forget.
Judy: We were coming over the top, going down the road, and
over the bypass and into a village called Wortley. As I was driving I looked to
the left hand side, and (um) there was a figure of what looked like a human
being, just the outline of a body and a head. Um, I couldn’t actually see any
facial expression, it was just a body, arms and legs, torso. Then I looked
again, also my husband was looking, and there wasn’t actually any feet touching
the ground, it was elevated, perhaps about 12 inches. And the arms and legs
were all distorted and just moving in weird directions, so it was really weird.
And then within seconds, really, from seeing this figure in the middle of the
field, it was at the bottom of an embankment, the embankment that led up on to
the road where we were driving. And within seconds from being at the bottom of
the embankment it rose into the air, and actually kind of fell in front of the
car. I mean I slowed down very very quickly, I put my foot on the brake, but to
both our amazement, it just vanished.
David: It was a
strange feeling, it brought goose bumps up on my arms. Um. I can only have one
thought in my mind, that it was an apparition or it was a ghost.
Neville, bus driver: As we turned the corner, you walked in
what can only be described as opening a great big freezer door, and walking
into it, and it felt like a brick wall at the same time, it was immensely cold.
And we just carried on walking up the lane after it sort of took us breath for
a second, and it finished up with us shaking uncontrollably, and we knew for a
fact we weren’t shaking. And as we went up the lane, slowly walked up the lane
to the entrance to this field, all the back of your neck started to crawl, your
scalp, and it just felt as though your hair was beginning to stand on end. And
the oppression started to come, it was really bad, heavy. And we could see what
can only be described as a monk racing around the field at great pace, one
minute he was stood at the top corner, then he was off, he was missing, then he
was at the corner, then he was at the entrance to the field, he was actually prancing
around.
Narrator: There have been many sightings like that, a
strange human like figure half seen, half not seen. It seems to be able to move
with great speed across the fields and roads. But other sightings are quite
different - they’re filled with immense detail about the clothes and the
appearance and manner of the apparition.
Graham, builder: This
particular night Nigel decided to come with me, and we set off running and we
got up to Wortley quite a bit later than what I would normally run if I was
running on my own. And on the way back it was coming dusk, and as I was running
in front of Nigel I saw in front of me, just as I was pulling into a layby to
mark time for Nigel to catch me up, a guy walking with his back to the traffic.
And I thought ‘whoa this is dangerous,’ and I looked over my shoulder and Nigel
was getting close to me. And then I realised that this guy wasn’t walking on the road, he was walking in the road. And at first I couldn’t, my
eyes were telling me he was doing this and I just couldn’t believe what I was
seeing. And the guy was getting nearer and he was actually walking, I could
only see from probably about there [indicates shin height] - about a foot of
him was walking in the road. And he
was in very old dark brown clothes and he got a cape on. And the cape, as he
got nearer, I could see it was buttoned every half inch down. It was like
eyelets, it wasn’t buttonholes like we have nowadays, it was like eyelets. And
the face was just like black, like a chap who comes out of the mine, but it was
a dull brown, and there was no actual face, it was like black sockets where his
face was. And he’d got a big bag with him, it was like trailing in the ground.
And Nigel stood at the side of me, and I turned to look at him, and his hair
was standing on end, and I could feel all the hair on the back of my head
standing up. And as I looked back to say something to Nigel, when we looked
back again he’d just disappeared.
Nigel, student: It
was difficult to believe what I’d just seen. It came to us like a normal person
and as it got close you could see there were no... you couldn’t see anything
like below its knees. And we just got a feeling of fear and decided to run as
fast as we could. And it was strange because you could tell straight away it
wasn’t normal - the facial features and everything, no eyes, no nose.
Graham: The funny thing about it was, there was this queer
musty smell. And I never said anything to Nigel, but Nigel said ‘Pooh, Dad,
dint he smell?‘ And that was it, he just disappeared and there was just this
fusty smell.
Narrator: That
account clearly carries the ring of truth about it. The fact that the figure walked
on a lower ground level, a ground level that existed in previous centuries,
also tallies with our research in other parts of the country where the
apparitions are associated with much earlier times. But the big question of
course, is what do we think is going on around Stocksbridge? There are large
deposits of iron ore in the region, which would affect the local magnetic
field. And there are overhead power lines, big electrical substations near the
steel smelters. Could they be having some sort of triggering effect?
Dr Richard Wiseman, parapsychologist: Some
scientists have argued that if you place the human brain, or at least some
types of human brain, those with a large amount of flux or activity in the
temporal lobes, into a very strong magnetic field, you’ll be able to induce an
anomalous experience. Now the evidence for that comes from laboratory based
studies, where they’ve placed very strong magnetic fields across the brain and
across the temporal lobes in particular, and people have reported very strange
experiences. Now whether you could ever get those sorts of strength of field
out in the real world, under power lines or by power stations for example, is a
different issue. There’s no evidence you can achieve those sorts of flux out
there in the field. But still, it’s an attempt at a normal explanation to
explain paranormal phenomena.
Narrator: But
magnetic effects or not, speak to the people who’ve had these experiences at
quite different times and places, and there can be no doubt but the powerful
impact on them. Not just the profound emotional nature of the experience, but
the quality of the recall – the detail of the coat fastening, or the line of a
collar, or the thud of something invisible hitting a car. Science finds these accounts
of the paranormal almost impossible to deal with because they seem to lie
outside all the established laws.
Professor Ian Stevenson, University of Virginia: I think the resistance of other scientists (that
is, those who’ve looked at the data) comes from the subversiveness of what
we’re saying - that there is a lot more to human personality than they have
allowed for.
Science spent a very long time building up a particular
world view, and that excludes the existence of paranormal phenomena by
definition. If we’re going to include those phenomena, we’re going to have to
radically change that world view. And we only want to do that if the evidence
is extremely good, we don’t want to make a mistake and say ‘ghosts exist, we do
survive death’ and then find out we’ve got it radically wrong. Science is by
its nature a very conservative process, you slowly collect the evidence,
present it to peer groups, see what they think. If it’s accepted, it slowly
becomes integrated into scientific theory. But it’s very early days yet and a
lot of the paranormal phenomena would mean that we do have to radically change
how scientists see the world.
What is at stake of course is huge: nothing less than the
most profound challenge to the way the human machine works. Conventional
science would have us believe we are essentially bundles of molecules that come
together for a brief spell of time, before dispersing back into the environment.
But these widespread and unexplained events might perhaps lift the veil onto
another kind of reality: the possibility that there is an entity, a something
that we call the mind, that might be capable of an independent existence, able
to survive the dissolution of the body, even take on an apparent form. It’s an
uncomfortable question, but one that increasing numbers of scientists are now prepared
to contemplate.I think the mind is primary consciousness. It’s primary and
I think irreducible. And it uses brains or a brain while we’re living, but may
persist after the death of the physical brain.
David Fontana, professor of psychology: My own prediction would be in fact we would
see that mind and brain are not the same, and that the nonlocality theory which
now has quite a lot of attention among scientists (which is that the mind is
separate from the brain but is normally operating through it), that this would
be established within science, and we would find that it is direct contact
between mind and mind that allows for these phenomena like telepathy to happen.
I try to monitor the literature of neuroscience, and read
the books by neuroscientists and authorities on memory, who are totally
convinced that memory is in the brain and couldn’t be anywhere else. And that personality
is also in the brain, and that if this or that part of the brain is damaged
then this produces this or that change to personality. And there’s no doubt
that they’ve made great progress, to tell you this is the decade of the brain,
but I hope that the next decade or some decade in the 21st century
will be the decade of the mind.
Narrator: An increasing number of scientists would agree with Ian Stevenson
that we need a new science, a science of the mind. But after almost 100 years
of paranormal research there are those that believe that a proper understanding
of it might always lie beyond our grasp.
Archie Roy, professor of astronomy: The universe may simply be too complicated -
and by the universe I mean the physical astronomical universe, but also the
universe of the paranormal - may be just too complicated for us to ever
understand. We can map it, we can study it, we can experiment with it, but it
may well be that we will never understand it. Maybe however 21st
century some new aspect will come in which will give us a clue as to what is
the best way of at least maximising our knowledge about what the paranormal is.
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